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My Ideas and Suggestions.

Discussion in 'Suggestions' started by iiEpicNubs, Sep 27, 2017.

  1. iiEpicNubs

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    This is not hate, just a suggestion(s)

    The server had a great start in 2015. The average amount of players exceeded 60 everyday in summer. In good days, it would reach 80-100 players. You should've taken this opportunity to add 1.7 since the most popular gamemodes at the time were kitpvp and hg. Judging from this logic, SxC would mostly would've been a pvp server if you decided to take this route.

    What you could do now is advertise. There is actually no point in making new gamemodes/minigames if there is literally no one playing it.

    I'm not fully sure if this is the correct choice but, upgrade the server to be premium since back when SxC was at its prime, most of the players were premium. Premium servers would get lots of more attention rather than a cracked server. I'm sure it would receive hate from the cracked players though, so this idea is literally a double edged sword.

    Like I said, advertising is key to revive SxC since what SxC lacks is players. I would strongly recommend making another trailer. In all honestly, the last trailer I've ever seen was 2 years ago, on Rubix's channel. (Remember that guy? No..? Ok...) This also depends on where you upload it. If you upload it on a channel with like 10 subscribers, its literally not going to do anything. The more popular the website/channel is, the better result.

    Finally, if you actually care for the server then do a massive revamp. Do not do little updates one by one. Take the actual time and DO NOT RUSH. It doesn't matter how long it'll take. As long as its good, the outcome would be successful.
     
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    Interesting points, I am curious though why you would prefer a large scale revamp as oppose to gradual changes.
     
  3. iiEpicNubs

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    This way, it would actually attract more players at once. I mean, no one is literally going to start playing a server after they like... released a new mini game or something. So it would make more sense to start a massive revamp in order to increase the chance of bringing back players or new players to SxC. This way, it would make it look like it that the staff team actually took considerate thoughts on the server. Also, for example if SxC released a new version of Kitpvp right? Lets say I'm not a pvper and instead, i'm a builder. Judging that I'm a new player, I will probably forget SxC. If you take this direction, the server won't be ignored and everyone would be happy.

    This is probably the best way to revive SxC. (This is all opinion based, don't take it too seriously if you disagree with anything.)

    Edit: Sorry, I've said too many "this way" LOL. Let me fix that.
     
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    Also, I forgot to mention this:

    I don't know why you need any more staffs. I understand that you need more for different timezones but this many on a server with literally no players? When I'm on SxC, the only staff I see online are Mad (with a bunch of numbers that I couldn't remember of. Sorry if this offended you.) and possibly DJDan. The rest of the staffs are either inactive or, joining the server as suppose when I leave.

    I've rarely seen hackers on this server. There are literally 3-6 people on KitPvp, judging that these people are og SxCers. There are literally low chances of them being hackers.

    Once SxC becomes popular, it makes sense that you should recruit more staffs. But as of now, you don't need like 10 staffs for a server that has a player average of 5-10 everyday.
     
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    I see your point of view. And I agree, that might be a good way to at least get a shot at having more players. However, as you mentioned, it would be an awful lot of work, and the server is already pretty heavily invested in a lot of these "little updates." But yeah, as a long term goal, looking into 2018-19, I'd say this might be a reasonable direction to go.
     
  6. iiEpicNubs

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    As they say, the more you spend time with, the better results/conclusion. <- Well this is what I did on my book report lol.
     
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    We have a lot in store for the server going forward. A lot. Stick around. :) Your last paragraph in the original post is more like what we've been doing. I think everyone will like the outcome.
     
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    We could have been. It is unfortunate that the PVPers refuse to move on. We counted on it.

    The plan is to advertise after we have prison's replacement released.

    I don't think that will help much.

    We are taking our time for two updates at the moment. We may spend a bit of time on everything else once the two are done.
    We barely have time for these two updates, so we are trying.

    Do you have any suggestions on how we can improve those other servers?

    Staff also help with updates too.
     
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    SxC needs any help that it can get. There is always room for improvements but, I strongly don't know whether this outcome would successfully work or not. Even if it brings back 1 player, its still worth it. But at the same time, rip to all of those cracked players.

    I'm not quite sure if you have already been doing this but, start improving parts that players wanted first. You've failed to do this back when the players of SxC asked for 1.7, thus eventually lost players. Also, this might not be the reason but, ever since the 1.9 kitpvp update or the new update for hg, there wasn't as much players as before. Instead of fixing it or having a vote whether to keep these updates or not, you've decided not to do anything. (I THINK)

    You brought back the old kitpvp but, it doesn't matter anymore because most of the well known players already left SxC. If you wouldn't have made this mistake, SxC would probably continue to grow in players.

    I've heard you've been programming custom bots, this idea will definitely work in the upcoming future. The most important part right now is to bring back players.

    I can see your point, you want the updates to be as fast as possible but, this also leads to bugs if you decide to be careless which leads to other disasters. So try to avoid that.

    Having more staffs then the average amount of players playing on the server is absolutely not a good idea. Another idea is, be careful on who you decide to recruit because, most of the applications are literally full of lies. Some people would put more than 4+ hours on being active on school days. Most of the time, it is a lie that people would put in order to just impress or increase their chances of being staff. Even if they're being honest, this alone states that they're not taking the proper amount of time to study for exams/tests or anything that relates to outdoor.

    Like I've said, this is not hate but my suggestions. You can choose not to listen to me but regardless, I just wan't the best for SxC atm.
     
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    I don't see why you're so focused on this. We have the amount of staff we have so we can effectively get things updated and released faster so we can continue with the plan. There is no problem with the amount of staff we currently have. It actually isn't that many at all.
     
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    What do you mean I'm so focused on this? I'm just replying to 321.
    I'm currently looking at your current staff list, and overall you have over 10. If 10 isn't that many on a server that averages around 5-10 players everyday (on a good day, over 10.), then what is? And I've never said that I disagree with faster updates. I'm just telling the staff team not to be careless since it'll probably bring in new bugs.

    If you still don't understand my point then, what I'm trying to say is, you're considering to recruit more staffs which is fine to do updates and revamps and etc. The thing is, thats literally around half of the average players in the server. Surely you don't want your server to be flooded with staffs, don't you? That's why I'm saying that recruiting more staff might not be a good idea.

    I see that you don't like my opinion, which is fine because everyone has different opinions/thoughts. I can see this leading to an argument, I want to avoid that as much as possible.

    Btw, this is what I said. "I don't know why you need any MORE staffs."
    I never said anything about the current staffs.
     
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    Retro was released shortly after the 3.0/1.9 kitpvp release for the 1.8- versions.
     
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    Exact date if you can? I'm pretty sure the 1.8 pvpers didn't like the 1.9 kitpvp update. Thus leaving a couple days later. That's when SxC started to become "dead" of players. Didn't you notice that the 1.7-1.8 kitpvp retro didn't have that much players as before? (back in 2015, it had 20 players average.)

    Also, I'm pretty sure the 1.7-1.8 versions was released a couple weeks after the 1.9 update. I could be wrong though.

    I think the most major changes were KitPvP and HG. Since no one liked the 1.9 pvp and the new kits for HG, I think that was the main reason why a bunch of players left SxC.
     
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    We were blindsighted with the 1.9 update and we dropped prison dev to jump into KitPvP v3. I do not have an exact date of the release of v3.
     
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    Well, the past is the past. Let's focus on the future. The fate of the server depends on the staff team.
     
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    I do see your point, and I'm not arguing. Sorry if I came across as brash. We have actually just 9 staff currently, not counting the owners. When you say 5-10 players a day, I think you mean players on at the same as each other, throughout the day. We actually have slightly more than that on average on at once. The daily individual logins count by the end of the day is much higher than who all is on at any given time.

    But no matter: my point is, during the day, when we have 7-15 on at once, or more or less, we on average only have 0-3 staff on. I believe that to be a reasonable ratio for such a small server currently in development to something bigger/better.

    What we are intending is a release/update/refresh, plus other new things and of course, bringing in new players.
     
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    This is exactly why Prison 2.0 development has taken so long. When I first joined the staff team, I joined the development team and I saw potential, so we unanimously decided to make the server an especially custom experience to players (from our original plan), not just your average prison server everyone will get bored of. There are a lot of concepts we have introduced, and at beta testing, I will inherit a status as a player within the subserver and try and break everything that I can, so I can help find as many bugs as possible. Balancing will also be a relatively long process (but an essential one), but we did not embark on our largest project ever to fail to impress people.
     
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    Are Jr. Staffs in this? If they are, you don't have many staffs as I originally expected...
     
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    I thought I was counting Jr. Staff...perhaps I counted wrong.
     
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    Mad_25 (and some other numbers) isn't on the staff list. I believe she's helper or moderator. Perhaps the list is outdated. If it is, please update it so it'll give valid information about the staff team. Also, if you have the time, include all of the Jr. Staffs. Although they are new to the staff team, they're still part of the staff team/willing to work for the server.
     
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